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Post by eddbutt Fri Apr 27, 2012 6:50 pm

Whilst I agree that promoting players on their 17th birthday is the best way to develop a superstar, I spotted one team in my division promoting a few players when they were 19. This resulted in them being around 50k CSR, and most skills between 9 and 12. This struck me as a great way to develop some squad players from the youth ranks. They could be used for cup games or rotated in league matches and grow by 500 CSR per week possibly. Your thoughts...

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Post by Wingnut Fri Apr 27, 2012 6:55 pm

its a great plan zec loves it
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Post by eddbutt Fri Apr 27, 2012 6:57 pm

Is it best to promote on 19th birthday or just before they turn 20?

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Post by Wingnut Fri Apr 27, 2012 6:59 pm

leave it as late as possible i think
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Post by The Zec Sat Apr 28, 2012 1:40 am

Right, Here's a lad I have in my academy right now:

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He's getting trained in Stamina, speed, technique and strength while he's in the academy, wheras he would be recieving worse training in the firsts in stamina, handling defence and kicking. Much more efficient to keep him with the kiddies (Plus good experience from LTNT every week)
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Post by eddbutt Sat Apr 28, 2012 11:32 am

Will his stamina stop growing now he's reached 12?

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Post by Guest Sun May 13, 2012 8:27 pm

Why would it stop growing? is There a cap at 12?

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Post by jeolmaga Mon May 14, 2012 1:51 pm

I dont think or know if there is a cap but it takes an age to get from 12 to 13 I believe.
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Post by Guest Mon May 14, 2012 2:31 pm

http://d.pr/i/v28W
This is my junior squad, I'm leaving some players longer in there. Who could be worth the waiting?

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Post by eddbutt Tue May 15, 2012 4:29 pm

What skills are you training in your youth team?

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Post by The Zec Tue May 15, 2012 8:53 pm

Jeol, I think there's a hard cap at the bottom of princely (12) Without CSR it's difficult to know for sure, but The guys in my team got up to 12 quite quickly, then simply didn't pop from 12. One did after about 9 weeks in the seniors.
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Post by Guest Tue May 15, 2012 8:57 pm

eddbutt wrote:What skills are you training in your youth team?
I was training tech, str, hand, def. then I changed hand to stamina, because it was quite low across the board. Now I have changed it completely because it's useless, I'm afraid, if there is a cap at 12, so I went 2x stamina, agility, speed.
Does that make sense?

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Post by Guest Tue May 22, 2012 7:31 am

Pantherus wrote:Alright guys I've asked Jeremy about this and said that clarification would be to the good for managers.

No - there is no hard cap for training in the Youth Academy. However, training rates do differ in speed at certain levels, just like in the seniors - so at a certain point in their training, skills grow at a slower rate once they hit a benchmark level.

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Post by The Zec Tue May 22, 2012 8:27 pm

As you said in the thread willi, time for us to find out for ourselves!
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Post by quind Wed May 23, 2012 9:51 am

The Zec wrote:Jeol, I think there's a hard cap at the bottom of princely (12) Without CSR it's difficult to know for sure, but The guys in my team got up to 12 quite quickly, then simply didn't pop from 12. One did after about 9 weeks in the seniors.

This is what I thought back to when the advice came there is no hard cap on training in the YA. Possibly there's a soft cap and training is glacially slow past 12, or a tweak has now been made in the database settings such that training can go past 12.

The lad that trained for 9 weeks in the seniors before a pop resulted, was that just TT in seniors or any individual nets?

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Post by The Zec Wed May 23, 2012 4:38 pm

Just TT, I don't have a stamina trainer. I'll have to check the dates again because some of it may have been double TT
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Post by Flu444 Thu May 24, 2012 4:46 am

12-13 pop time on just TT for a 19 yr old is much more than 9 weeks.

2 thoughts, either the guy was still geting stam training in the YA but at a slower speed or (and i suspect this my be the case ghaving weighed up all th info) that training stops at 12 but IGT does not. meaning we was at 12.6 when you pulled him and he gainined the .6 from IGT.

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Post by Guest Thu May 24, 2012 9:47 am

I hope you're wrong about stopped TT. Now we need player at 12 who stays in the YA but doesn't play any games.

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Post by Meeeeeeeat_ Thu May 24, 2012 2:57 pm

by the way its slightly off topic but can you train younger players quicker than older? is there like a 'cant teach an old dog new tricks situation?'
just wandering thats all
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Post by Guest Thu May 24, 2012 3:11 pm

yeah, the younger, the faster they learn and vica versa. too old players even loose skills

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